Monday, January 12, 2009

SN 3.7 Atthakarana Sutta

At Savatthi. As he was sitting to one side, King Pasenadi Kosala said to the Blessed One: "Just now, lord, as I was sitting in judgment, I saw that even affluent nobles, affluent brahmans, & affluent householders — rich, with great wealth & property, with vast amounts of gold & silver, vast amounts of valuables & commodities, vast amounts of wealth & grain — tell deliberate lies with sensual pleasures as the cause, sensual pleasures as the reason, simply for the sake of sensual pleasures. Then, the thought occured to me: 'I've had enough of this judging! Let some other fine fellow be known for his judgments!'"

"That's the way it is, great king! That's the way it is! Even affluent nobles, affluent brahmans, & affluent householders... tell deliberate lies with sensual pleasures as the cause, sensual pleasures as the reason, simply for the sake of sensual pleasures. That will lead to their long-term harm & pain."

That is what the Blessed One said. Having said that, the One Well-Gone, the Teacher, said further:

Impassioned  with sensual possessions,
greedy, dazed by sensual pleasures,
they don't awaken to the fact
that they've gone too far —
like fish into a trap set out.
Afterwards it's bitter for them:
evil for them
the result.

Me: There was once someone told me she needs to lie as due to job nature. I believe all starts and ends with intentions.
Needing to lie of course plants seeds but may still be good, bad or neutral due to the intentions used. With lying
to get the deals b'cos u want fame and fortunes.....then bad seeds. If you want is just to keep the job so to finance kind
movements like charity and in the process the lie does not hurt any and is blameless, isn't it good.

Buddha pointed out in the above sutta that lying for sensual pleasure is bad. But how I feel if our cultivations like meditation
is for getting happiness on reaching higher Jhanas, isn't that sensual pleasures??

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